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Welcome to the Proposals reading room. On this page, Wikibookians are free to talk about suggestions for improving Wikibooks.


Suggested changes to some filters

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Latest comment: 2 months ago8 comments4 people in discussion

Hello, everyone. I am back to suggest some more changes to Wikibooks' edit filters.

Suggested changes to filter 7
  • I reduced the global edit count to less than 30 edits.
  • Because of Special:AbuseLog/302263, I added a regex string to exclude Wikimedia-related phrases.
  • Instead of using rcount, for the http condition, I switched back to count, and used http (link phrase) and lcase(added_lines).
user_editcount < 5 &
global_user_editcount < 30 &
!(added_lines irlike "mediawiki|wiki(?:books|data|functions|news|quote|species|source|versity|voyage)|wiki[mp]edia|wiktionary") &
count("http", lcase(added_lines)) > count("http", lcase(removed_lines)) &
count("<ref", added_lines) <= count("<ref", removed_lines)
Changes to filter 44 and its disallow message
  • Instead of old_size > 0, I used page_id != 0 and have placed it at the top.
  • For the page namespace condition, I used an equals_to_any condition.
  • Instead of only excluding reviewers, I excluded user groups and global user groups that have the autopatrol user right.
page_id != 0 & /* only check on existing pages */
equals_to_any(page_namespace, 0, 102, 110) &
!("autopatrol" in user_rights) &
count(".wikipedia.org", added_lines) > count(".wikipedia.org", removed_lines)

We should also modify filter 44's disallowing message.

  • I would suggest moving it to MediaWiki:Abusefilter-disallowed-wikipedia-url to maintain consistency with the disallow messages.
  • I used an edit filter warning template and have made grammar changes and added a link to the edit filter false positive reports page.
{{Edit filter warning
| action = warn
| friendly = yes
| text     = <big>'''Alert'''</big>: Books should use links to Wikipedia sparsely and only to reference technical or esoteric terms that are critical to understanding the content. Normally, you should incorporate text into the book, not links, so that the book is self contained.

When linking to Wikipedia, please do not use bare URLs. Instead, replace them with '''''<nowiki>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Name</nowiki>''''' with '''<nowiki>[[w:Article Name|Article Name]]</nowiki>''' or '''<nowiki>{{w|Article Name}}</nowiki>'''.

If you have received this message in error, you may [[Wikibooks:Edit filter/False positives|report it here]].
}}

Thank you. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 01:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Leaderboard@JJPMaster what do you think? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'm broadly supportive. But code for private filters shouldn't be posted publicly. Leaderboard (discuss • contribs) 13:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
I made sure that both of the filters I posted are not hidden from public view before adding my suggestions here. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 01:08, 29 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
This LGTM. JJPMaster (she/they) 17:20, 26 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
I am far away from my laptop, so I will implement those changes when I get home. Codename Noreste (talk · contribs) 02:00, 6 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Filter 7 now fixed, will do the same for filter 44 and its message later. Codename Noreste (talk · contribs) 05:44, 6 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Now implemented. Codename Noreste (talk · contribs) 12:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Add a required edit count to the autoconfirmed permission?

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Latest comment: 4 days ago6 comments2 people in discussion

Currently, we often see vandals and spammers wait four days to game the autoconfirmed permission, which is not ideal. I am proposing that for the autoconfirmed permission, we should require at least ten edits in addition to four days to new, registered users. Codename Noreste (talk) 23:09, 19 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Linking to the last time this discussion was had (2023). I had no personal problem with it, but one person was explicitly opposed. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
It was also discussed back in 2018, though I wasn't around at the time. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Since no one has commented lately, I will go ahead and start the vote which will last at least two weeks, starting now. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 03:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

!votes

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Latest comment: 1 month ago5 comments2 people in discussion

I propose updating the following interface pages and the Anontools template to appear as close to the English Wikipedia, but we retain the word discussions and the Wikiscan link:

I plan to modify the text for anonymous user footers: 

This is the [[Help:Tracking changes#User contributions|contributions page]] for an IP user, identified by the user's [[:w:IP address|]]. Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may [[{{ns:Special}}:UserLogin|create an account or log in]] to avoid future confusion with other IP users. [[Help:Account management|Registering]] also hides your IP address.

This also includes Anontools: 

{{flatlist|1=
* ([https://whois-referral.toolforge.org/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip={{{1}}} WHOIS]&nbsp;<sup>([https://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/{{{1}}} alt]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip={{{1}}} old])</sup>
* [https://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/{{{1}}} Geolocate]&nbsp;<sup>([https://www.iplocate.io/{{{1}}} Alternate])</sup>
* [https://ipcheck.toolforge.org/index.php?ip={{{1}}} Proxy Checker]
* [{{fullurl:Special%3ABlockList|ip={{{1}}}}} Current blocks]
* [{{fullurl:Special%3AGlobalBlockList|ip={{{1}}}}} Global blocks]
* [http://tools.wmflabs.org/guc/?user={{{1}}}&blocks=true Global contributions])
*([[:w:Regional Internet registry|RIR]]s: [https://rdap.afrinic.net/rdap/ip/{{{1}}} Africa]
* [https://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/{{{1}}} America]
* [https://wq.apnic.net/apnic-bin/whois.pl?searchtext={{{1}}} Asia-Pacific]
* [https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?searchtext={{{1}}} Europe]
* [https://query.milacnic.lacnic.net/search?id={{{1}}} Latin America/Caribbean])
* [//enwikibooks.wikiscan.org/ip/{{urlencode:$1}} Wikiscan]
}}

As well as Sp-contributions-footer (when implementing Template:Sp-contributions-footer): 

{{flatlist|1=
* [[User:{{{1|Example}}}|{{{1|Example}}}]]: [[Special:Prefixindex/User:{{{1|Example}}}/|Subpages]]
* [[Special:UserRights/{{{1|Example}}}|User rights]]
* [[xtools:ec/en.wikibooks.org/{{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}|PATH}}|Edit statistics]]
* [https://sigma.toolforge.org/summary.py?name={{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}|QUERY}} Edit summary search]
* [[xtools:pages/en.wikibooks.org/{{{1|$1}}}/all|Pages created]]
* [//tools.wmflabs.org/meta/stalktoy/{{urlencode:{{{1|$1}}}}} Stalk toy]
* [http://enwikibooks.wikiscan.org/user/{{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}}} Wikiscan]
* Global: [https://guc.toolforge.org/?user={{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}|QUERY}}&blocks=true contributions]
* [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=globalauth&user=&page=User:{{urlencode:{{{1|Example}}}|QUERY}}@global log]
* [[Special:CentralAuth/{{{1|Example}}}|accounts]]&nbsp;<sup>([[m:Special:CentralAuth/{{{1|Example}}}|meta]])</sup>
}}

Thoughts? Codename Noreste (talk) 23:21, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

I would prefer to keep the stalk toy tool, since I find it very useful! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:15, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've re-added stalk toy. Codename Noreste (talk) 20:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I will proceed with the changes if there are no objections by tomorrow. Codename Noreste (talk) 23:55, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Implemented. Codename Noreste (talk) 17:48, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Declaring Wikibooks:Incubator a rejected proposal

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Latest comment: 4 days ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I've boldly marked this page as a rejected proposal, as the "major projects process" it describes has never been implemented, would probably be impossible to implement given the numbers of participants required, and - most importantly - is explicitly contradicted by WB:NOTMETA ("Wikibooks is not for developing new Wikimedia projects").

Please let me know if I've overstepped any boundaries here - but I doubt there's going to be much disagreement on this one; the proposal has seen no discussion since 2011. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 01:43, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

I have no objection to your bold change. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 03:32, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Condensing Reading Room pages

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Latest comment: 4 days ago6 comments3 people in discussion

And, on a completely different note...

Given the relatively low level of activity on this project, the number of subsections of the Reading Room seems a little excessive. Would there be any objection to making the following changes?

  1. Convert Wikibooks:Reading room into a discussion page in its own right, rather than an index of discussion pages.
  2. Redirect the following pages to the new central discussion page: Wikibooks:Reading room/General, Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals, Wikibooks:Reading room/Projects, Wikibooks:Reading room/Assistance, Wikibooks:Reading room/Technical Assistance, and Wikibooks:Reading room/Bulletin Board.
  3. Leave Wikibooks:Reading room/Administrative Assistance in place, as it serves a distinct purpose.

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 02:01, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

In theory, I wouldn't mind combining many of those—they're all archived to the same place in the end. I think General, Proposals, Projects, and Assistance could be merged without an issue topically. I do like having technical assistance as a separate page. I'm not sure what you mean by converting Wikibooks:Reading room into its own discussion page. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 03:26, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
What I meant is that, if we were to do away with most of the reading room pages, we could make Wikibooks:Reading room be the main "reading room" where most discussions happen, rather than having it link out to a bunch of subpages like it does now. It's one less step for people looking to ask questions. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 05:42, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Gotcha! Under your proposal, would admin assistance and technical assistance still be subpages of the main reading room? I'm trying to get a sense of that and how you propose to do navigation. It also occurs to me that we would have to make sure changing the page structure doesn't interfere with the archiver bot. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 11:14, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
So, do you think that for AA and TECH, should they keep their own archive indexes? Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 03:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
I personally agree that we can keep the administrative and technical reading rooms separate as is, as they receive some more activity than the rest of the reading room pages. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 04:10, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?

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Latest comment: 4 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I propose that we limit the namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension to only the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior namespaces (which are content book namespaces), because I don't see any reason to include additional non-content namespaces, such as templates. For the same reason, there is no motive to mark changes to templates as reviewed, since templates (and other non-content namespaces) are not reader material. Codename Noreste (discuss • contribs) 03:02, 28 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

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