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That last video?

https://theintercept.com/2021/07/15/israel-army-settlers-palestinians-killed/

On a single day in May, Israeli settlers and soldiers cooperated in attacks that left four Palestinians dead…While Israeli media reported that the killings occurred amid “clashes” — implying the widespread protests over Al Aqsa and the Gaza bombings — at least four of the deaths occurred during deliberate attacks by settlers and soldiers on Palestinian villages, an investigation by Local Call and The Intercept found….Attacks on Palestinians by stone-throwing settlers, as Israeli soldiers stand idly by, are a common occurrence in the occupied Palestinian territories. But scenes like those from May 14 — settlers and soldiers attacking villages in apparent cooperation, with live ammunition — are unprecedented.

Further confirmation of Zionism’s inhumanity!!

Taiseer Khatib is in this 3 minute news clip about the citizenship law from an Australian news outlet –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCGW7oor1Y

“amigo, Deliberate liar and justifier of terrorism.” jon s

As I have many times told you jon s you are squatting on a property hich is part of a land that was taken from someone else by the use of Terrorism.By remaining there yo are effectively supporting Terrorism.

if you are such a great friend of the Palestinian People when are you going to demand Justice , equality and accountability for the crimes carried out against them.When will you call for Netanyahu to be tried in a neutral Court of Law .When will you call for the trial of Tipsy Livni for her crimes against Gaza .

Give it a rest about terrorism, your very existence was and is made possible by the crimes and terrorism of zionism.

The People of Gaza are fighting to stay alive. Your zionist thugs committed Terrorist acts to invade and colonise someone elses land on which you are squatting.That makes you a supporter of Terrorism.

Squawk all you want and throw around accusations of terrorist support.I am not the one who has gained in any way from Terrorism.

That would be you.

From PCPSR: By contrast, 64% say democracy in Turkey is good or very good

This doesn’t mean much without knowing their rationale behind the answer. Erdogan conducted mass arrests following the 2016 coup attempt.

By contrast, we Americans locked American citizens of Japanese descent in concentration camps during world war 2

Uhm… was this supposed to prove something? Segregation was still a thing in the US before, during and after WWII. The South kept African-Americans from voting based on spurious legal requirements that didn’t explicitly mention race. Likewise, Gantz couldn’t form a govt. with Joint-List and Yisrael Beiteinu which explicitly wants to remove citizenship from non-Jewish Israelis close to the West Bank. So he split his party to join Netanyahu. The 15 seats of a non-Jewish party didn’t count.

What does the Economist think of that?

I realize this comment is somewhat irrelevant but is Mondoweiss being run by ophthalmologists? Whose brilliant idea was it to use a very faint grey color text (under photos) on a white background?

Much like the NRA, AIAPC has landed very much on the wrong side of the partisan line, history, morality, and the future. Both are run by rich old men who live in a completely different century and who are woefully out of touch, not just with their own respective bases, but reality itself. They still demand and carry a certain amount of clout in Washington from the same old men they have been flat handing, bullying, blackmailing, and straight up buying off, but they too are a dying bread and that influence is waning faster than than they can comprehend. None of them are long for this world, and much like their role model Sheldon Adelson, they’ll be dying off en masse along with their shameful legacy and vanish into obscurity where they belong.

“Israel was ranked 28 out of 167 on The Economist’s Democracy Index.” wacko jacko

For the umpteenth time jacko, Israel is listed as a “FLAWED DEMOCRACY”.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/02/02/global-democracy-has-a-very-bad-year

Funny that, jacko is bragging about Israel being a FLAWED DEMOCRACY. Hell , they can,t put a working government together that can last more than a few months.Some democracy.

I have corrected this for you on several occasions but you insist on keeping up the big lie.

don,t you think you owe it to your adoring fans to at lest tell them the truth.

“amigo, Deliberate liar and justifier of terrorism.” jon s

Funny that, coming from a zionist invader who is an integral part of the very genocide he denies exists.

Moderation rarely accepts my longer comments that try to explain Rabbinic Jewish intellectual culture, US federal law, or international law, but I will try to provide an explanation.

I agree with Phil: AIPAC is likely using COVID as cover for other, Israel-protecting reasons which we will likely never be able to confirm until some courageous young anti-Zionist working within AIPAC’s offices releases reams of confidential docs a la Edward Snowden.

There is another possibility however, for AIPAC’s decision to cancel its 2022 conference: Organized Zionism might actually be learning something about how, via its intense and hostile campaigns against Palestine solidarity, BDS, anti-Occupation and anti-Apartheid efforts actually serves those efforts. Every AIPAC conference generates very public and very negative-for-Brand Israel media, publicity, news coverage, press accounts, demonstrations, etc. as a by-product of AIPAC conference coverage. The power of Zionism to generate press attention simultaneously generates coverage and, importantly, legitimization for BDS and Palestine solidarity as a whole. Could it be that after reading the Jewish Electorate Institute’s devastating new poll of Jewish attitudes towards Israel/Zionism coupled with all the other developments that are not going Israel’s way someone with AIPAC suggested that in 2022 they not provide their opponents (again) with a free, annual, Washington-based and slavishly -covered-by-the-MSM event that will without doubt (again) broadcast nationwide terms such as “Occupation”, “Apartheid”, “Sheikh Jarrah”, “Gaza” and “home seizures”?

This might indicate that Zionism is learning from the (many) mistakes, misreadings and misjudgements it has made relative to attempting to suppress the cherished national American rights to boycott, free associate, condemn (not merely criticize) Israel, Zionism, Congressional sycophancy, etc. Too soon to tell but Zionism has a history of refusing to attend or withdrawing from any event that it feels does not serve its agenda including, infamously, the 2001 World Conference against Racism (WCAR) because it equated Zionism with racism. Zionist don’t, and won’t, stay and defend their principles because they know they are indefensible. Continuous tactical retreat is Zionism’s favorite default gambit.

View 33 posters on the topics of Zionism Equals Racism and Anti-Zionism Equals Antisemitism here.

Q: Is it antisemitic according to IHRA to say these things or to fail to say them?

The Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics uses different criteria to determine Jewish residency and non-Jewish residency. If a single rational criterion were used, Jewish residency within the Green Line is likely to be found less than 60%.

Apartheid South Africa created the bantustans in order to argue that blacks were not South Africa’s people and that the issue of discrimination was foreign relations.

No one took such nonsense seriously, and there is no material difference between Apartheid Israel’s treatment of natives and Apartheid SA’s treatment of non-whites.

A racist Zionist calls the PA a state when it is useful to him. If the PA is a state to Green, he should have no problem when the PA petitions the ICC to investigate the Zionist state for war crimes or for crimes against humanity

The Anglo-American legal system has long allowed temporary discriminatory remedies for historical and systematic abuses. Affirmative Action allows race to be factored into employment and admission decisions.

Apartheid South Africa and Apartheid Israel discriminate against non-whites and natives, but this discrimination is unlike Affirmative Action because the two apartheid systems give absolute advantage to already advantaged groups.

I had to study at Harvard to understand fully what Zionism has done to Judaism and to descendants of Jewish communities.

I fully believe that Zionism has murdered Judaism

How so? Just curious why you think that, not here to argue with you. The standard view, of course, is that Zionism has allowed Judaism to continue to flourish.

So, a survey question which disambiguates “Israel’s just like the US, racism-wise” from “Israel’s racism is of a different sort from that found in the US” would be welcome.

The report on the survey says that half of the sample (“split A”) were asked if they agree or disagree with the statements
“Israel doesn’t have the right to exist” and “Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the U.S.“,
and if they disagree with either statement, then whether they believe the statement is antisemitic or is not antisemitic. Funny that they didn’t ask people who agreed with a statement whether or not they believed it is antisemitic.

The question is already confusing enough, asking people whether they agree or disagree with a negative statement (“Israel doesn’t have the right to exist“), and then telling them that if they’re going to indicate a negative reaction to the negative statement, they should say whether they think the statement is antisemitic or not antisemitic.

The survey found that 34% of respondents agreed that “Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the U.S.“, 50% disagreed, and 16% weren’t sure. What does that tell us? If you think that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is worse than racism in the U.S., and of a very different kind from racism in the U.S., then the survey taker expects you to say you disagree with the statement.

There’s a line that hasbarists have been spreading recently, saying that American social justice warriors are adopting the Palestinian cause because they think that Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is similar to racism in the U.S. — mistakenly, according to the hasbarists. I’ve even heard this line from conservatives who are not active hasbarists, but they pick it up because they trust the hasbarists. Needless to say, the people who spread it never follow up with details on how Israel’s treatment of Palestinians differs from racism in the U.S., because there’s no way they can win if they go there.

Apartheid is government segregation of its people by race. The Palestinians who live in the West Bank are not Israel’s people. They are an enemy people in an foreign state. Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is foreign relations, not apartheid.

1. In which foreign state (foreign to Israel) is the West Bank located?
2. Hundreds of thousands of Israeli civilians also live in the West Bank under Israeli civilian law, but the Palestinians there live under Israeli military law. The Israeli government decides where Israeli citizens may live, and where Palestinians may live, and these are separate areas.

The West Bank Palestinians could have declared independence in 1948. Instead, they asked for union with Jordan so when Jordanians attacked Israel it was also the Palestinians attacking Israel.

Jack, you’re going off script. The Hasbara line is that the West Bank Palestinians were subjected to invasion and a 19-year occupation by the Jordanian army, during which time they were oppressed by the Jordanians, and those who complain about West Bank Palestinians’ mistreatment under occupation by the Jewish state of Israel are unfair, even antisemitic, because they don’t talk about their mistreatment under occupation by the Arab state of Jordan.

Perhaps some informed and thoughtful intellect like Ramzy Baroud will propose a plan or formulation that could possibly form, from a Palestinian perspective, a realistic basis for an agreement.

amigo, Deliberate liar and justifier of terrorism.
I’m a much better friend and supporter of the Palestinians than him.

Please provide a quote from the international law that you claim that Israel is violating.

The West Bank is occupied. No occupier has ever treated the occupied people the same way that it treats its own citizens, but no one has ever called that apartheid unless they’re talking about Israel. Why?

Israel was ranked 28 out of 167 on The Economist’s Democracy Index. That’s better than Belgium, Italy, Greece, Cyprus & at least a dozen other European countries.  
 
Even Palestinians think that Israel is a democracy.
“57% say democracy in Israel is good or very good”
http://pcpsr.org/en/node/723
 
    Israel has maintained democracy even though it’s been under continual attack. By contrast, we Americans locked American citizens of Japanese descent in concentration camps during world war 2 & we confiscated Joe DiMaggio’s father’s fishing boat because he was of Italian descent.
 

If you use the word “apartheid,” people think of South Africa, not Rome. If you are talking about Rome, you need to specify that you’re talking about Rome.

Is the USA apartheid because we have Affirmative Action which discriminates by race, ethnicity & gender?

Should we Americans set a good example of equality by abolishing Affirmative Action which discriminates by race, ethnicity & gender?

Apartheid is government segregation of its people by race. The Palestinians who live in the West Bank are not Israel’s people. They are an enemy people in an foreign state. Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is foreign relations, not apartheid.

   The West Bank Palestinians could have declared independence in 1948. Instead, they asked for union with Jordan so when Jordanians attacked Israel it was also the Palestinians attacking Israel. The Israeli army had to go into the West Bank to silence the guns. That’s how the occupation began.
   
    Unlike other occupiers (China, Russia, Turkey, Morocco) Israel offered to end the occupation in return for a peace treaty. Israel is still waiting. 

Every time Israel assaults Gaza, and the world sees the excessive violence against unarmed civilians, and see the number of casualties mount, Israel loses the PR war, and loses a lot of support. It seems now all those who may have been given a free birth right trip are opening their eyes to the real story. The truth is prevailing however slowly.

Speaking of terrorists who ‘don’t deserve to be treated like a normal human being’, here’s just one of the many horrors Zionist terrorists of foreign origin perpetrated against essentially defenseless indigenous Palestinians:

Acclaimed historian Arnold Toynbee described the Deir Yassin massacre as ‘comparable to crimes committed against the Jews by the Nazis.’ (Sami Hadawi, Bitter Harvest, p. 85)

Chaim Weizmann, who had always been very worried about the fact that the indigenous Arabs were the great majority in Palestine, described the Deir Yassin incident as ‘a miraculous simplification.’ (Dr. Alfred Lilienthal, The Zionist Connection, pp. 156-57)

Menachem Begin, leader of the Irgun, could hardly contain himself upon hearing of the ‘victory’ at Deir Yassin. He immediately sent a congratulatory message to the Irgunists who had taken part in “Operation Unity.” ‘Accept my congratulations on this splendid act of conquest…. Tell the soldiers: you have made history in Israel with your attack and your conquest…. As in Deir Yassin, so everywhere, we will attack and smite the enemy. God, Thou has chosen us for conquest.’” (Menachem Begin, The Revolt: Story of the Irgun, Tel Aviv: Steimatzky, 1983, pp. 162-165)

The commander of the Haganah, Zvi Ankori described what he witnessed at Deir Yassin:
“I saw cut-off genitalia and women’s crushed stomachs. It was direct murder. Soldiers shot everyone they saw, including women and children. Parents begged commanders to stop the slaughter, to please stop shooting.” (Lenni Brenner, The Iron Wall: Zionist Revolutions From Jabotinsky to Shamir, (Zed Books, Ltd. 1984). P. 97. And Ralph Schoenman, The Hidden History of Zionism, (Veritas Press, Santa Barbara, California, 1988) p. 33.

Twelve-year old Fahimi Zidan survived a mass killing of about 36 Deir Yassin villagers, including most of her family: “The Jews ordered all our family to line up against the wall and they started shooting us. I was hit in the side, but most of us children were saved because we hid behind our parents. The bullets hit my sister Kadri (four) in the head, my sister Sameh (eight) in the cheek, my brother Mohammed (seven) in the chest. But all the others with us against the wall were killed; my father, my mother my grandfather and grandmother, my uncles and aunts and some of their children.” (Quoted by David Hirst, The Gun And The Olive Branch, p. 125)

Everyone is entitled to human rights . Not only terrorists but even low life zionists such as yourself who refuse to accord rights to millions of Palesrinians. Granted it night be nice to treat you and yours as you treat others but it would be wrong.

Israel is one of major human rights abusing states and a blight on humanity.

wacko jacko , a true scholar would supply a link to allow us to see who came up with the numbers you supply.

We have many reasons to not believe you and to be dubious about any author you quote.

“The Palestinian population is growing nicely. Some genocide…” jon s, aka illegal invader squatter

jon s has spent several years on this site posing as a peace seeker but when folks finally figured him out he turns into the full blown racist anti Palestinian zionist.
Well done jon s , you kept a lot of people fooled for quite a long time.

Has quite a ring to it–eh.Israel forced out 700,000 Palestinians from their homes and later many more hundreds of thousands under cover of national security for a State they stole .

The most simple minded person on earth could figure out that had the 700,000 palestinians not been evicted from their “historic Homeland” their numbers in so called Israel would be far greater than exist today

Btw, I am not including the millions of Palestinians forced out over the ensuing years.

zionists are most probably the only “people” (?) who dream up an idea , carry it out and then vehemently deny they had anything to do with it.

It is another form of genocide—zionist style.

The Israeli Immigration Policy Center! – who knew?
https://israeli-ipc.org.il/en/main-3/

On the website –
https://israeli-ipc.org.il/en/jewish-population/

“In First, Jewish Population In Israel Drops Below 74%”

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“The Board of Deputies of British Jews denounced the column.

“’That the Guardian lists its support for a Jewish national homeland in 1917 among its ‘worst errors of judgment’ in its 200-year history is breathtakingly ill-considered,’ Marie van der Zyl, the group’s president, said in a statement.

“She added: ‘In its eagerness to disassociate itself in any way from its early support for Zionism, the Guardian chooses not to focus on the simple fact that had such a national homeland existed even a decade earlier than 1948, many millions of Jews – our close relatives – murdered in the Holocaust might still be alive.’

“Van der Zyl said that ‘alongside a safe and secure Jewish state,’ the Board of Deputies also backs the establishment of a Palestinian state, ‘something the Balfour declaration does not negate.’ The Balfour Declaration says in regards to supporting a Jewish national home that ‘nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.’

“Van der Zyl also accused the Guardian of seeming ‘to do everything it can to undermine the legitimacy of the world’s only Jewish state.’

“Among other things the newspaper said it got wrong over its 200-year history were being ‘a proudly imperialist paper,’ its support of the Confederacy in the US Civil War and its ‘at times racist’ editorials.”

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/guardian-backing-balfour-declaration-among-papers-worst-errors-of-judgment/

”The Guardian: Backing Balfour Declaration among our ‘worst errors of judgment’”

“‘In list of all-time ‘mistakes,’ UK daily says modern-day Israel ‘isn’t country it foresaw or would have wanted’; Jewish leadership blasts ‘breathtakingly ill-considered’ position”
By TOI STAFF 8 May 2021, The Times of Israel.

“Over a hundred years after backing the UK government’s Balfour Declaration, The Guardian newspaper said it regrets its enthusiastic support for the famous statement recognizing a national home for Jews in historic Palestine.

“In an editorial published Friday to mark its bicentennial, the Guardian listed the ‘worst errors
of judgment’ the British daily has made since its founding in 1821.

“These ‘mistakes’ included supporting the 1917 declaration issued by then foreign secretary Arthur Balfour, a document seen as a key milestone in the State Israel’s establishment and which the Guardian described as having ‘changed the world.’

“’The Guardian of 1917 supported, celebrated and could even be said to have helped facilitate the Balfour declaration,’ the left-leaning newspaper wrote. Referring to its then editor, CP Scott, the paper said his support of Zionism ‘blinded him to Palestinian rights.’

“’In 1917 he wrote [an editorial] on the day the Balfour declaration was announced, in which he dismissed any other claim to the Holy Land, saying: ‘The existing Arab population of Palestine is small and at a low stage of civilization.’ Whatever else can be said, Israel today is not the country the Guardian foresaw or would have wanted, the column stated. (cont’d)

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210714-eu-israel-displaced-595-palestinians-since-beginning-of-2021/

“EU: Israel displaced 595 Palestinians since beginning of 2021”
State sponsored terrorism.

Human rights don’t work that way. You could have put your grandmother through the food processor and served her up in your homemade hummus, but you would still have the rights to –
-be charged with a crime
-have legal defense
-have the evidence examined by your defense
-be judged by a jury of your peers
-not be tortured

…none of which are guaranteed to West Bank Palestinians.

I wish one of the survey’s questions had been written more clearly, specifically the one comparing Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians to US racism.

I’ve heard apologists of Zionist racism make just this point, meaning that, like the US, Israel has a history that is trying its best to overcome – “Look, is the US free of racism? Of course not, so why pick on Israel? We, too, struggle with becoming more fair to minorities, just as you Americans do. Same thing”.

Of course, it’s not the same thing at all. While the US assuredly remains a racist society in many ways, our racism is not explicitly codified in our laws, as is the case in Israel. Our leaders, across the political spectrum, have not declared that incorrect ethnicities will never outnumber whites/Christians. Municipalities in the US do not have written codes that exclude Blacks or Jews from buying homes there, no matter how desperately some members of those communities might wish they did.

I know that racist wishes may be accomplished in under-the-table ways here, but surely national laws and regulations that codify overt racism are a step down the ladder of infamy than implicit racism is, damnable as it may be.

So, a survey question which disambiguates “Israel’s just like the US, racism-wise” from “Israel’s racism is of a different sort from that found in the US” would be welcome.

Modern Jews don’t understand this Jewish joke.

Traditional Jewish yeshiva education education exists on learning a set of acceptable questions and a set of acceptable answers. The real joke lies in awareness that the traditional Jewish community enforces a tremendous uniformity of thought, and there is not much diversity of thought at all.

Originally religious Jews resisted Zionism as blasphemy, but they have for the most part been enmeshed in Zionism. I spent some time with Satmar Hassidim, but I had to study at Harvard to understand fully what Zionism has done to Judaism and to descendants of Jewish communities.

I fully believe that Zionism has murdered Judaism as Zionists have committed murderous genocide against Palestinians.

Maybe Judaism can be revived, but I am not optimistic.

jon s once again parrots a standard Zionist propaganda script.

A decrease in population size is not a requirement for genocide. Mass murder and genocide are different crimes.

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum clarifies the difference in What Is Genocide?

Here we go again with the bi monthly , or is it quartely re-run of wacko jackos worn out repetitious bs.

Jacko, don,t you ever learn.We all know you are full of it ,(ziocaine) so no need to keep repeating yourself.No one is buying it.

“Actually doing it”? The Palestinian population is growing nicely. Some genocide…

Bring it up with Dr. Einat Wilf, who will be teaching a course at Georgetown this fall on “Zionism and Anti-Zionism”, and shared her draft syllabus, with a solicitation for comments:
https://twitter.com/EinatWilf/status/1411746831596404749
The Morgenthau quote is not included. Nor is the more famous letter written in response to the Balfour Declaration by Edwin Montagu, the only Jew in the British cabinet at the time.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Dr. Wilf spoke at a debate last year in favor of the motion that “Anti-Zionism Is the New Anti-Semitism”:
https://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/anti-zionism-new-anti-semitism

Quoting Norm Coleman:

We see it in campaigns such as BDS that demonize the Jewish state of Israel, delegitimize Jewish identity and seek to destroy Jewish peoplehood.

Oh, I see, BDS portrays “the Jewish state of Israel” as evil. Gotta keep an eye on that campaign. Not only that, but it diminishes the legitimacy, prestige, or authority of Jewish identity. Yikes. Then we get to what is presumably the worst thing about BDS, which is that it seeks “to destroy Jewish peoplehood.” Jewish what? If you accuse BDS of seeking to destroy Jewish people, then that is a charge that can be understood by everyone. But Jewish “peoplehood”?  According to my dictionary, “peoplehood” is “the collective sense of being part of a distinct people.” So we’re told that BDS seeks to destroy the collective Jewish sense of being part of a distinct people. Oh. Maybe this explains why the dispute between the Israelis and the Palestinians is so vicious and bitter, like academic politics: it’s because the stakes are so low.

In the real world, the Jewish state of Israel demonizes the state of Palestine to such a degree that it won’t allow it to exist (let alone recognize its “right to exist”), and it also delegitimizes Palestinian identity and seeks to destroy Palestinian peoplehood, but those are not the complaints that we hear at pro-Palestinian rallies, because there are real-world grievances such as that half of the Palestinian people are not even allowed to live in Palestine, and most of those who are allowed to live there are subjects under Israeli military rule.

When you are a terrorist you don’t deserve to be treated like a normal human being.

Liberal Jews have not learnt from history. And it will not turn out well for them. Today, the Left have taken over the streets. No doubt about this. But when the pendulum swings back, and it will, the type of antisemitism that we will see, will be of a different type that is prevalent on the Left today, the type we see in the streets of NY and other cities. And when this happens, the Phillip Weiss’s of the world, who think they will be protected for all those “years” they stood shoulder to shoulder with Palestinians and the Left, that their so called friends will stand with them, will discover that they are also very much alone and in the cross-hairs. And the Weiss’s of the world will have no place to run. If you do not have the backbone to recognize antisemitism in the form of anti-Zionism, then you will deserve what is coming. Phillip, even though your father is Jewish and not your mother, effectively making you not Jewish with the majority of Jews in this world, the antisemitises will not be bothered by this fact. You dig your own hole as you fester the lies and hate.

Human Rights Watch recently concluded that Israel has crossed a threshold and its actions in the occupied territories now meet the legal definition of the crime of apartheid under international law. Israel is the sole sovereign power that operates in this land, and it systematically discriminates on the basis of nationality and ethnicity. Such a reality is, as we saw ourselves, apartheid. It is time for the world to recognize that what we saw in South Africa decades ago is happening in the occupied Palestinian territories too.

– from an article published last month by Ilan Baruch and Alon Liel, who both served as Israeli ambassador to South Africa.
https://www.groundup.org.za/article/israeli-ambassadors-compare-israel-south-africa/

Since Misterioso likes to cite Henry Morgenthau Sr. a Jewish critic of Zionism, I would like to add some information on the next generation of the Morgenthau family. Henry Morgenthau Jr. (1891-1967)served as FDR’s Treasury Secretary from 1934 to 1945 . Initially he, too, was an opponent of Zionism but under the impact of the Holocaust his attitude changed: he was instrumental in creating the War Refugee Board, went on to work for the UJA and became a strong supporter of Israel. There’s even a moshav named for him here (Tal Shahar, about halfway between Jerusalem and Be’er Sheva).
Morgenthau Sr.’s granddaughter was the historian Barbara Tuchman (1912-1989) , who wrote” Bible and sword : England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour” ( among other works) .
Back to Morgenthau Sr. : it’s recently come to my attention that despite his ideological opposition to Zionism, Ambassador Morgenthau was instrumental in providing aid to the Jewish Yishuv during WW1.

Trying to explain the history of Judaism to a Zionist propagandist like Jon S is a waste of time.

“a pro forma democracy – going through the motions of democratic rule”

Like the Mar. 2020 election where the third largest party in the Knesset was frozen out of the govt. despite a clear majority of seats against Netanyahu. Israel’s Zionist politicians will pull any stunt to ensure non-Jews have no real power under the electoral process.

That law is genocidal.

Once again, Israel is neither preventing married people form living together nor from having children. If one spouse cannot move, the other can.

I have already seen Green parrot this propaganda script once before.

Meshoe sets up a straw man so that he can argue that the Zionist state does not practice SA Apartheid in the region the Zionist state rules (all of Mandatory Palestine).

1) The argument is not relevant because Apartheid is defined by Rome Statute and not by the Apartheid SA example.

2) Apartheid SA stratified the non-white resident population into strata with varying degrees of rights from non-citizen blacks, who had no rights, to citizen Japanese, who had full white status and white rights. The Apartheid SA system was similar to that of the Zionist state but not as harsh.

During the apartheid period, a citizen non-white could theoretically serve in practically any government office.

No one took seriously the racist SA argument that SA had no obligation to give Black non-citizens rights because Black non-citizens were citizens of bantustans, which were fake sovereigns just like the PA.

One must suspect that Meshoe is on a Zionist propaganda payroll.

And yes, it’s projection. Israeli Jews blame Palestinians for wanting to do to them what they are actually doing to the Palestinians. Maybe they’d like to reciprocate in kind. Maybe not. (Could you blame them?) But it’s the Jews who are actually doing it.